Re: [ba-unrev-talk] NYTimes.com Article: Conferees in Congress Bar Using a Pentagon Project on Americans
As my brother rightly pointed out: "just because it isn't authorized doesn't
mean that they won't do
it." (01)
Matt
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From: "Aldo de Moor" <AdeMoor@uvt.nl>
To: <ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org>
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] NYTimes.com Article: Conferees in Congress Bar
Using a Pentagon Project on Americans (02)
>
> On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 garyrichmond@rcn.com wrote:
>
> > from the article:
> >
> > and that is: Stop the trifling of the civil liberties of
> > law-abiding Americans."
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Now, without a new law specifically authorizing its use and
> > a new, specific appropriation to pay for it, the program
> > could not be used against United States citizens. But it
> > could be employed in support of lawful military operations
> > outside the United States and lawful foreign intelligence
> > operations conducted wholly against non-United States
> > citizens.
>
> Good to know that I can still be spied upon... What a vacuous tautological
> terminology this is! By making it into law that foreign subjects can be
> monitored, it is automatically 'lawful'. Note the subtle distinction
> between 'lawful' and 'legitimate'.
>
> Aldo
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> (03)