Teamwork is a big part of knowledge management. Getting help creating a good
record ensures a resource that helps everyone. We have Eric working on
requirements, Bill Bearden is developing the glossary, Jack Park is championing
ontology. You and Eugene are generating the record needed to organize the work
and maintain progress.
Thanks again.
Rod
Yee Su Ling wrote:
>
> --- In unrev-II@egroups.com, Rod Welch <rowelch@a...> wrote:
> > Great notes.
>
> Yes. That's because Eugene added to it and edited. \ Su-Ling
>
> > This is the beginning of "knowledge management."
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > Yee Su Ling wrote:
> > >
> > > Minutes drafted by Su-Ling and improved by Eugene:
> > >
> > > OHS Meeting 6/1/2000, SRI Engineering Bldg, EK255
> > >
> > > Present: Doug Engelbart, Marcello Hoffman, Pat Lincoln, Eugene
> Kim,
> > > Eric Armstrong, John Deneen, Warren Stringer, Joe Williams, Tom
> Hill
> > > (conference call), Mary Coppernoll, Su-Ling C. Yee.
> > >
> > > 1) Pat and Doug related news from their Washington trip.
> > >
> > > Pat relayed that Werner Schaer (President, Software Productivity
> > > Consortium) is in favour of OHS, but SPC will not finance OHS
> > > development. However in line with their mission to help member
> > > companies, SPC will hold workshops and meetings on using OHS when
> it
> > > is ready. Doug noted that Werner is disappointed that Curt
> Carlson
> > > (CEO, SRI) is not more proactive. Pat adds that while Curt
> remains
> > > convinced of the benefit and is a strong supporter of the big
> vision,
> > > there's not been any Institute action. SRI is not a cash rich
> place
> > > right now. Curt is also not completely convinced about open
> source.
> > > Doug, on the other hand, is convinced intuitively about the
> importance
> > > of open source, but he noted that it would be nice to have facts
> to
> > > back up his intuition.
> > >
> > > 2) Tom Hill, who cofounded EOE with Jim Spohrer, was
> teleconferenced
> > > in, and introduced himself. We promised to e-mail him information
> > > about the unrev-ii mailing list, so he could participate in
> > > discussions.
> > >
> > > 3) Doug talked with Marcello (before meeting) and came up with
> four
> > > basic vectors to get off the ground:
> > >
> > > 1. OHS is the foundation
> > >
> > > 2. Finding an organization that will take over the
> organizational
> > > operational support. An eg of the need for that is
> international
> > > groups like the Millenium Project.
> > >
> > > 3. Building the DKRs.
> > >
> > > 4. A Fellows program. Inviting people -- executives,
> technical,
> > > HR, etc. -- from other countries and organizations to
> participate,
> > > where these people meet and work on a plan for an
> organization,
> > > building from their experience. Mei Lin Fung, native of
> > > Singapore, has spoken with Singapore government who is ready
> to do
> > > this.
> > >
> > > Marcello reported that his division will be spinning out from SRI
> and
> > > will probably be in a better position as a smaller organization to
> > > support this program. He has spoken to division head Bill Gunn
> about
> > > this, who has expressed interest, but wants to make sure the
> logistics
> > > are sorted out. Discussion follows about this: fellows have to
> > > support themselves, bring something to the table, that it is sure
> what
> > > they want to do is build Improvement Infrastructure, there's
> alignment
> > > and it doesn't turn out to be high-tech tourism.
> > >
> > > 4) Doug spent a day in Washington at the Genova Project. GP is
> > > putting together tools and human systems aspect, providing
> support for
> > > high level decision makers, intelligence, military, policy issues.
> > > Doug talked with them about OHS and addressability. They might be
> > > able to funnel money to us without any overhead time.
> > >
> > > 5) Pat notes that there are ways that can get funding from the
> > > government, model of sustainable project in SRI terms. For it, he
> > > needs a crisp statement of the big goal. A one paragraph
> statement of
> > > the first step in bullets and brief statements, eg. v.1 of
> > > OHS. Powerpoint slides are crucial for government funding.
> > >
> > > Eugene has taken all three summaries that have been done thus far
> and
> > > suggests we work on them to produce the statement for Pat.
> > >
> > > Marcello points out that in marketing, we need to target
> individuals,
> > > look for the hook.
> > >
> > > 6) John suggests a lead: Francis Heylighen who has a cooperative
> > > research agreement with Xerox.
> > >
> > > Eugene observes that there are lots of potential collaborations
> but
> > > we're not at that stage yet. Let's email leads to the list so this
> > > info will be archived for when we get to that stage.
> > >
> > > 7) Doug will do an internal seminar for VA Linux. We're currently
> > > trying to schedule it in three weeks. On the week of the 15th, he
> > > will also present at a workshop organized by SPC that's funded by
> > > ARPA.
> > >
> > > 8) Eugene proposes we move to working on Pat's needs. Because
> Pat had
> > > to leave the meeting early, Eugene proposed to table the first
> > > paragraph until next week, and talk about the second paragraph --
> > > identifying the "first step." Everyone agreed that the key to
> both
> > > paragraphs is the audience that is being targeted, which in this
> case
> > > is the government, people who may not have even heard of Doug.
> > >
> > > Doug suggested starting with software development documents,
> > > determining the multiple views we'd like to have, and
> > > transcoding/translating into that form. Eugene stated that
> central to
> > > doing this was coming up with an intermediate file format.
> > >
> > > Eric asked for a description of Augment's data structures. Doug
> said
> > > that was easily doable, and promised to put a presentation
> together.
> > >
> > > Marcello asked whether this first step could be demonstratable as
> > > early as possible. A demonstration would show the value of what
> we're
> > > doing, and would pique people's imaginations. Eugene added that
> the
> > > high-level use cases will outline what we want to demo.
> > >
> > > 9) Discussion of setting up demo of Augment and what's needed for
> > > it. This serves two purposes: It shows the team its
> capabilities, and
> > > can be used during presentations to others. Doug agreed to set
> up a
> > > demo for next week's meeting. Eugene and Joe volunteered to help
> Doug
> > > set it up, if he needs it.
> > >
> > > 10) More general design discussions followed. Doug emphasized the
> > > importance of citing e-mail, and his desire to add addressability
> to
> > > the current hypermail archive.
> > >
> > > 11) Summary of the "first step" discussion. Warren noted the
> > > advantage of having programmers as target community is that we can
> > > attract more programmers to the project. Queries, Directed Graph,
> > > Versioning, organizational bodies, audience in terms of
> > > bootstrapping.
> > >
> > > Eugene noted that there are two "first steps." Our own internal
> > > "first step" and the "first step" for Pat's audience. We can
> work out
> > > this latter paragraph next week, when Pat is back.
> > >
> > > Doug brought up a presentation he is doing for DARPA-funded
> workshop
> > > in two weeks. He's not completely familiar with the audience at
> that
> > > workshop, and solicited ideas for what to present to this group.
> > >
> > > John asked about Collab.net as a possible source of collaboration.
> > > Eugene reminded the group that they had met with Brian Behlendorf
> of
> > > Collab.net a few weeks ago. There's a lot of synergy, but
> funding is
> > > not likely, because Collab.net is a startup. VA
> Linux/SourceForge is
> > > a better shorter term opportunity. However, in both cases, we
> need to
> > > reach a certain stage before any group takes us seriously. It's
> > > important for us to achieve that stage before we can expect
> groups in
> > > general to take us seriously.
> > >
> > > Doug also brought up a presentation he's doing for Cadence at the
> end
> > > of the month. The company wants him to talk about this project.
> > >
> > > We all agreed that having demos ready as soon as possible is a
> good
> > > internal first step. Augment should serve as an initial demo, but
> > > Marcello noted that we need to have more visually exciting demos.
> > > Augment is so fast, it can be hard to follow what's going on
> without
> > > full concentration. Talked about mocking up demos, and proposed
> > > various ways of doing this.
> > >
> > > Warren proposes we have a show and tell, a presentation of what
> people
> > > in the team would like to do.
> > >
> > > 12) Joe said that he'd put together an initial glossary, but said
> that
> > > in order to do so, he wanted the group to contribute initial
> terms.
> > > Doug said to start with XML and XML-related terms. Eugene
> suggested
> > > "transcoding" and "translating."
> > >
> > > Doug said that if he received a copy of the glossary early
> enough, he
> > > would suck it into Augment, and show how Augment aided the
> > > collaborative development of glossaries.
> > >
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