I am now back. Intend to be at Doug's house this afternoon.
Cheers
Jack
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From: John J. <mailto:JJDeneen@ricochet.net> Deneen
To: G. Ken Holman <mailto:gkholman@cranesoftwrights.com>
Cc: Doug Engelbart - Bootstrap Institute <mailto:DOUG@bootstrap.org> ;
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 10:42 PM
Subject: [unrev-II] Re: Back to KenH & JohnD re: [Fwd: Many thanks]
Hi-Ken,
I know that Jack Park will be gone on a business trip starting Nov. 9.
Hopefully, he'll be back by Nov.14 ? In any event, I'm sure other OHS
developers and I could meet with you and Doug.
Until then, the following are some pointers to background info about our
approach for the HyperScope-OHS launch and development, including related
work referenced in the IEEE Intelligent Systems journal (Knowledge
Management and the Internet) Vol. 15, No. 3, May/June 2000.
On Nov. 8 at 7:21 pm, Jack says "I'm about to head for Texas, so I thought
I'd take a shot at responding before I pack and head out. ... I discovered
PlanetOnto today on the web after seeing it in the stuff you brought. That
stuff is extremely interesting."
So, if you have access to an online membership to the IEEE Intelligent
Systems journal, then I recommend downloading the complete series of
articles as noted below. Otherwise, the journal is available for reading or
photocopying at a university library, etc..
Kindest regards,
--John Deneen
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Subject: Draft Plan for HyperScope-OHS launch and development
Date: 25 Oct 2000 22:00 PDT
From: Doug Engelbart - Bootstrap Institute
Reply-To: ohs-dev@bootstrap.org
Via the first basic AUGMENT-to-HTML translation process put together by
Eugene,
I've installed a recent draft at <
http://www.bootstrap.org/a2h/BI/2120.html
<http://www.bootstrap.org/a2h/BI/2120.html> >
There are a few translation details which could be fixed, but basically it
does
what I'd looked for.
Eugene adjusted the URL "naming" to mirror what we use in AUGMENT, where the
link address is -- i.e. it was submitted to the "BI" Journal, where
it was given the permanet access number of "2120".
And, would cite the "Phase-2" Branch within AUGMENT -- and that
part of the HTML version would similarly be cited with the URL
< http://www.bootstrap.org/a2h/BI/2120.html#3
<http://www.bootstrap.org/a2h/BI/2120.html#3> >
We might make adjustments to this "BI/2120.html" file, but the intent would
be
that none of the content, structure, or "Location Numbering" would change.
And
it undoubedly will be superceded with updated versions; and also supported
by
other planning documents regarding deeper details and/or modifications to
this,
and also plans associaed with other phases of the larger Bootstrap Program.
So I invite dialog about this plan to make use of links to the specific
content
locations being discussed.
And note that we'd like to translate quite a few of the AUGMENT reference
files
into this browser-accessible form. E.g., a full series of User Guides.
Doug
Subject: Workshop on Knowledge Management and Organizational Memories
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:36:45 -0800
From: "John J. Deneen"
Re: IEEE Intelligent Systems, June 2000
Hi-Jack,
In addition to the links about 1) kMail, 2) WebKB, and 3) Engineering
Design Repositories:
http://faculty.biu.ac.il/~dgs/papers/kmail.pdf
<http://faculty.biu.ac.il/~dgs/papers/kmail.pdf>
http://meganesia.int.gu.edu.au/~phmartin/WebKB/doc/papers/ieee99/ieee99.ps
<http://meganesia.int.gu.edu.au/~phmartin/WebKB/doc/papers/ieee99/ieee99.ps>
http://www.nist.gov/msidlibrary/doc/nextgeneng.pdf
<http://www.nist.gov/msidlibrary/doc/nextgeneng.pdf>
I've found one more:
4) Building & Searching an XML-based Corp. Memory, from a Workshop on
Knowledge Management and Organizational Memories
http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/WORKSHOPS/IJCAI99-OM/PAPERS/dieng.ps
<http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/WORKSHOPS/IJCAI99-OM/PAPERS/dieng.ps>
http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/WORKSHOPS/IJCAI99-OM/proceedings.html
<http://www-sop.inria.fr/acacia/WORKSHOPS/IJCAI99-OM/proceedings.html>
Therefore, only 4/7 links to articles directly from authors websites are
available. The remaining 3 (Intro to KM and the Internet, PlanetOnto,
and Web-based KM for Distributed Design) may requiring downloading from
the IEEE journal.
Links to many related projects:
http://www2.kmi.open.ac.uk/projects/projects-text.cfm
<http://www2.kmi.open.ac.uk/projects/projects-text.cfm>
Based on these approaches and projects and any others that you can think
of (e.g., Onto-centric design), are you interested in getting a group of
influential decision-makers and VCs together for making pro/con
recommendations with possible changes in OHS-dev priorities and
proposals to Doug?
Looking forward to a criticality event,
--John
"G. Ken Holman" wrote:
Hello again Doug and John,
At 00/11/01 11:55 -0500, I wrote:
>At 00/10/31 20:33 -0800, Doug Engelbart - Bootstrap Institute wrote:
>>I'll await your response.
>
>If it would help to get more colleagues together, I could try to juggle my
>commitments arranged for Tuesday the 14th. I would have my daughter in
>tow, but I would pick her up Tuesday morning, move our family obligation
>to Tuesday early afternoon, meet with you Tuesday late afternoon to early
>evening, then get to SFO by 20:00 for our 22:00 red-eye flight.
>
>I don't mind the juggling ... in fact, if you want just an introductory
>session Saturday evening and *then* have me meet Tuesday with your
>colleagues, that may even be best. We can determine on Saturday what we
>should be talking about on Tuesday.
>
>Would that work for you?
Did you two come to any conclusions about the weekend and next week?
Have you thought of how I can prepare for the kinds of questions you are
going to have?
I've been laid low with sickness and am tardy getting up to speed on OHS
... I'll try my damndest before I leave on Friday.
Thanks!
................. Ken
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