Re: [unrev-II] Attribution

From: Grant Bowman (grant@suse.com)
Date: Sat Dec 30 2000 - 20:02:05 PST

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    While I am replying to an unrev post, I think this is an example of a
    topic that could be continued on ohs-dev.

    * Garold L. Johnson <dynalt@dynalt.com> [001224 18:29]:
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Eric Armstrong [mailto:eric.armstrong@eng.sun.com]
    >
    > "Garold L. Johnson" wrote:
    > >
    > > > A better alternative, if feasible, would be attributions attached to
    > > > every phrase in the node....
    > >
    > > This is Ted Nelson’s passion. ... Nelson viewed
    > > the attributed quotation mechanism as the basis for a royalty scheme
    > > that would pay authors for the amount of their work that was viewed no
    > > matter what document it was quoted in.
    >
    > [Eric Wrote:]
    > [...]
    > So, while I agree that attribution is 100% necessary, I
    > disagree entirely with the notion of tying it to monetary
    > compensation. It runs counter to the social mores of
    > academia where "building a name" is deemed laudable, and
    > where complete and accurate attribution is deemed a
    > necessity.
    >
    >
    >
    > [Garold L. Johnson] Money or no money is totally not the point. The point is
    > that the technology for tracking and propagating attribution was something
    > that Ted Nelson worked out in Xanadu. What you do with the “points” that add
    > up is completely irrelevant to the technology needed to support the
    > accounting. I am simply suggesting that there is little chance of starting
    > from scratch and successfully second guessing an effort that took several
    > decades in development. Even if the only point of attribution is
    > traceability to originating source, the required technology is the same.

    Is anyone familiar with the technial specs of Xanadu? I have browsed
    through quite a bit of the web pages and found some good references
    among the many other pages.

    Good Overview: http://www.sfc.keio.ac.jp/%7Eted/XU/XuSum99.html

    Technical description: http://www.xanadu.net/TECH/xuTech.html

    <opinion> And of course any real open-source project
              publishes source! </opinion>
            http://udanax.com/green/download/index.html
            http://udanax.com/gold/download/index.html

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