Re: [unrev-II] Groupware and Corporate Repositories

From: John J. Deneen (
Date: Wed Apr 26 2000 - 11:19:09 PDT

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    The link seems to work OK. Try it again and you'll find info about the ZIGZAG system by scrolling down 1/3 of the page. At the bottom of the page is info about the availability of the ZIGZAG program:

    "Shareware prototypes of the ZigZag program may be purchased at We have two versions as of 98.06.24--

    Difficult. The version exposed on the main page requires Linux to be pre-installed.

    Easy. There is also (currently hidden) a downloadable boot floppy from which a standard Wintel computer may be rebooted into ZigZag. The package will be downloaded automatically if you go to This package must then be unzipped (you will
    need an Unzip module, such as WinZip, available "for evaluation" at and moved to a floppy using Rawrite (included in the package). Rebooting will then bring up ZigZag. "

    Eric Armstrong wrote:

    > "John J. Deneen" wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > Groupware and Corporate Repositories: A Proposal for Leveraging
    > > Intellectual Capital ... allows an associative hypertext network
    > > to "self-organize" into a simpler, more meaningful, and more easily
    > > usable multidimensional network (aka ZigZag by Ted Nelson).
    > > "The ZigZag space may be thought of as a multidimensional
    > > generalization of rows and columns, without any shape or structure
    > > imposed."
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > Unfortunately, that link is broken
    > > .... "The term "self-organization" is appropriate to the degree that
    > > there is no external programmer or designer deciding which node to link
    > > to which other node: better linking patterns emerge spontaneously. The
    > > existing links "bootstrap" new links into existence, which in turn
    > > change the existing link patterns. The information used to create new
    > > links is not internal to the network, though: it derives from the
    > > collective actions of the different users. In that sense one might say
    > > that the network "learns" from the way it is used." ...
    > >
    > > ... "The algorithms for such a learning web are very simple. Every
    > > potential link is assigned a certain "strength". For a given node a,
    > > only the links with the highest strength are actualized, i.e. are
    > > visible to the user. Within the node, these links are ordered by
    > > strength, so that the user will encounter the strongest link first.
    > > There are three separate learning rules for adapting the strengths.
    > >
    > > 1) Each time an existing link, say a -> b, is chosen by the user, its
    > > strength is increased. Thus, the strength of a link becomes a reflection of the frequency with which it is used by hypertext navigators. This rather obvious rule can only consolidate links that are already available within the node. In that sense, it functions as a selector
    > > of strong connections. However, it cannot actualize new links, since
    > > these are not accessible to the user.
    > >
    > Unfortunately, I suspect that this rule only acts as an amplifier. If a
    > bad link is chosen, it rises in strength. The next user to follow it
    > increases its strength. Because it is a "strong" link, many others
    > follow it, only to be disappointed. Such a mechanism rewards links with
    > great titles, regardless of the value of their contents. I suspect that
    > an evaluation mechanism of some kind makes sense, so that people who
    > follow the link can predict the value to others of doing so.
    > > Therefore we need complementary rules that generate novelty or
    > > variation.
    > >
    > > 2) A user might follow an indirect connection between two nodes, say a
    > > -> b, b -> c. In that case the potential link a -> c increases its strength. This is a weak form of transitivity. It
    > > opens up an unlimited realm of new links.
    > > Indeed, one or several increases in strength of a -> c may be
    > > sufficient to make the potential link actual. The
    > > user can now directly select a -> c, and from there perhaps c -> d.
    > > This increases the strength of the potential
    > > link a -> d, which may in turn become actual, and so on. Eventually,
    > > an indefinitely extended path may thus be
    > > replaced by a single link a -> z. Of course, this assumes that a
    > > sufficient number of users effectively follow that
    > > path. Otherwise it will not be able to overcome the competition from
    > > paths chosen by other users, which will also
    > > increase their strengths. The underlying principle is that the paths
    > > that are most popular, i.e. followed most
    > > often, will eventually be replaced by direct links, thus minimizing
    > > the average number of links a user must follow
    > > in order to reach his or her preferred destination.
    > >
    > That's an interesting prospect.
    > > 3) A similar rule can be used to implement a weak form of symmetry.
    > > When a user chooses a link a -> b, implying
    > > that there exists some association between the nodes a and b, we may
    > > assume that this also implies some
    > > association between b and a. Therefore, the reverse link b -> a gets a
    > > strength increase. This symmetry rule on
    > > its own is much more limited than transitivity, since it can only
    > > actualize a single new link for each existing link." ....
    > >
    > Also interesting. But in any sort of hierarchical information structure,
    > the strongest links will undoubtedly turn out to be the parent node that
    > contains a pointer to a given destination. Index pages (tables of links)
    > will therefore get the highest strength ratings. That may not be *all*
    > bad, given the transitivity proposition -- eventually the other links
    > chosen from the index pages will rise in strength. However, (a) no one
    > such page is liable to reach the level of the index pages themselves,
    > and
    > (b) the system still rewards any link simply for being chosen, rather
    > than for being "rewarding", in some fashion.
    > > Therefore, by abandoning the correspondence epistemology and its
    > > reliance on fixed primitives, bootstrapping approaches open the way to
    > > a truly flexible, adaptive and creative knowledge system.
    > >
    > Sounds good, but I'm not sure the claim can be substantiated in
    > practice.
    > Are there any proof-of-principle projects they can point to? Thinking in
    > terms of our own use cases -- where we posit one or more software
    > developers using the system, the "malleable link ordering" would have to
    > provide some benefit. In a larger educational environment (for example,
    > on that explained design patterns) I can see some utility. But in the
    > smaller context of several developers collaborating to create a design,
    > how much help would it be?
    > Taking our own project, I can think of the reference list or the list of
    > collaborative design projects. If we organize on the basis of who chose
    > which links, we will most definitely reward the best titles -- not the
    > best content. As nice as it sounds, I don't see it improving our
    > position materially. I think it is fundamentally "content" that needs to
    > be rewarded. The notions of transitivity and symettery are good -- if
    > they can be based on content evaluations.
    > Thinking in terms of the atomic data structure, I can see adding a list
    > of links to a node. Those links can then be augmented using transitivity
    > and symettry -- maybe.
    > [Come to think of it, a transitivity issue springs to mind, as well.
    > Following a tutorial, the pages go in sequence 1 to 2 to 3. Since pretty
    > nearly everyone who starts at 1 will go to 2 and then to 3, the
    > transitivity will create links that invite bypassing the intended
    > sequence -- which would could make the material rather difficult to
    > understand.
    > Again, the links have been rewarded, without regard for the suitablitity
    > of the content, starting from the present location...]
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