Re: Quiet?

From: Grant Bowman (grant@suse.com)
Date: Tue Oct 03 2000 - 23:54:38 PDT


By Wednesday 10/4? Oops. Is someone already on this?

-- Grant

* John J. Deneen <jjdeneen@ricochet.net> [001003 22:17]:
> Ref.
> http://www.xml.com/pub/au/Holman_G._Ken
> http://www.cranesoftwrights.com
>
> I believe G. Ken Holman (CTO, Crane Softwrights Ltd), relative to his article below
> about XSL outlining capabilities, etc., lecture, and hands-on instruction capabilites
> (http://www.cranesoftwrights.com/schedule.htm) can greatly help Doug and us expedite
> the reverse-engineering of AUGMENT with open-source Java/XML.
>
> What's the Big Deal with XSL?
> http://www.xml.com/xml/pub/1999/04/holman/xsl.html
>
> As a minimum, I'm hoping Doug and his OHS developers can prepare to collaborate with
> Ken for resolving their programming dilemmas while he's in San Jose at the XML One
> Conference (Doubletree Hotel) until end of 10/4/00. Otherwise, he won't be available
> until Nov. after returning from business trips overseas.
>
> If this is doable, then that's great. If not, then let's consider using his free class
> notes, recommended XSL-List Archive, FAQ of Dave Pawson, and ZVON tutorials.
> http://www.cranesoftwrights.com/training/index.htm#ptux-dl
> http://www.mulberrytech.com/xsl/xsl-list/archive/msg09584.html
>
>
> Henry van Eyken wrote:
>
> > Precision links, I believe, specifically refer to such targets ("anchor names" in
> > http://www.bootstrap.org/help.htm ) as statement numbers ("those funny purple
> > numbers"), statement identifiers or SIDs, worker-assigned statement names. See:
> > http://www.bootstrap.org/oad-2250.htm
> >
> > Henry
> >
> > Other references:
> >
> > http://www.bootstrap.org/alliance-980.htm
> >
> > defines:
> >
> > "Precision browsing" Jumping directly to any object in any file with on-the-fly
> > custom views 2D1E1H
> >
> > Precision browsing includes cross-window jumping and dynamic view control; keep
> > annotated lists of links or hits to selected passages, email links to author or
> > co-workers with questions or comments 2D3A
> >
> > ****
> >
> > http://www.bootstrap.org/help.htm
> >
> > explaines:
> >
> > Precision Browsing 1
> >
> > We designed our website for quick maneuverability by combining: 1A
> >
> > explicit structure 1A1
> > jumping and viewing options 1A2
> > unique address given to every object
> > - i.e. paragraph, heading, image, quicktime clip 1A3
> >
> > For example, we provide a table of contents at the top of every document,
> > with [>] ZOOM IN buttons that opens up more detail. Within the document, every
> > heading has a [<] ZOOM OUT button which jumps you up to its "parent" heading.
> > These ZOOM buttons allow you to pop back and forth between the detail and the
> > top-level outline view, to "traverse" the structure of the document. And when
> > clicking on a link lands you deep in the middle of some document, you can click on
> > the nearest ZOOM OUT button for a birds-eye-view. 1B
> >
> > You will notice that the table of contents has you clicking on a button
> > rather than the heading text. Think of it as collapsing and expanding the document
> > structure, rather than following a reference to more detailed information. 1B1
> >
> > We have also pre-tagged the tail end of every paragraph and heading with
> > purple Statement Numbers which you can use to jump directly to, and/or uniquely
> > reference, any item in our website. 1C
> >
> > For additional background information, see Controlling the View and Traveling
> > Through the Working Files in the paper Authorhip Provisions in Augment
> > (OAD,2250,7). 1D
> >
> > These simple features were designed to give you a taste of what we've
> > envisioned for the website of the future - a collaborative knowledge environment
> > which has evolved well beyond publishing, into facilitating, capturing,
> > integrating and adding value to the swirl of in-process collective work of virtual
> > teams and communities (out of which pops knowledge products to be published). See
> > Boosting Collective IQ and Essential Elements of An Open Hyperdocument System for
> > more detail. 1E
> >
> > And last but not least, clicking on the BI logo in the toolbar on any page
> > will take you back to the BI home page. 1F
> >
> > Eric Armstrong wrote:
> >
> > > "precision links"
> > > --That is one great buzzword, Nick.
> > > It captures the essence of "fine grained addressability"
> > > but in a way that has the flavor and nuance of a fine
> > > swiss watch, or synchronized swimmers: elegance, grace,
> > > accuracy -- all of that.
> > >
> > > --The concept of "precision" can also be extended to
> > > cover the capability to include the target text inline,
> > > display a link to it, or hide the link so it is available
> > > when you make a extra gesture (say, a right click). In
> > > other words, you can specify with precision how the link
> > > should be treated.
> > >
> > > --Finally, you can specify the precise view that should
> > > greet the user when the link is traversed.
> > >
> > > "precision links" is a buzzword that could easily catch on!
> > >
> > > ncarroll wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Eugene Eric Kim wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, ncarroll wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What summaries? Huh?
> > > > >
> > > > > See:
> > > >
> > > > [snip]
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > =================
> > > >
> > > > > > I'm mostly poking at the Augment linking conventions
> > > > > > and file structures, trying to figure out what those
> > > > > > portend for DKRs. Still without the actual Augment
> > > > > > client, I haven't devoted as much time to thinking
> > > > > > about views and user commands.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is very interesting stuff. When I release the a2h code, you'll see
> > > > > some notes on Augment and OHS linking.
> > > >
> > > > Creating "human-and-machine readable precision links"
> > > > (preferably in less than 500 characters) will definitely be
> > > > interesting. Hmm, a new buzzword for OHS: "precision links,"
> > > > referring to links that can address document nodes.
> > > >
> > > > ==================
> > > >
> > > > > Forgot to mention in my last e-mail: Nicholas has developed a great design
> > > > > for the OHS web pages,
> > > >
> > > > ;-) Nicholas has whipped out an adequate-to-task design....
> > > >
> > > > > which we'll hopefully get up relatively soon.
> > > >
> > > > Ready here. Need logo and content.
> > > >
> > > > N.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ______________________________________________________
> > > >
> > > > Nicholas Carroll
> > > > Email: ncarroll@inreach.com
> > > > Alternate: ncarroll@iname.com
> > > > ______________________________________________________

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