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Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Extending the 3 R's

Great questions.    (01)

As it so happens, when this arrived, I was "thematic vagabonding" from some 
of the work of Heiner Benking.  Was just reading this page:
http://www.global-dialog.org/mvd/mvl.cgi?NextName=wNewMythos.html    (02)

requisite quotation:
"What we need is a common story that connects us to Creation, that 
discovers the sacred, the magic in every moment. We need to evoke the deep 
sense of connection and relationships, the pattern that illuminates our 
place, our identity, direction and purpose... We need stories we can share 
as children of the earth, stories that bring us to a knowledge of ourselves 
as global beings and as participants in a vast and wondrous unfolding of 
- Medicine Story    (03)

This page was found after rediscovering some of the premises of Whorf:    (04)

"That the commonly held belief that the cognitive prosesses of all human 
beings possess a common logical structure which operates prior to and 
independently of comunication through language is erroneous. It is Whorf's 
view that the linguistic patterns themselves determine what the individual 
perceives in this world and how he thinks about it., Since these patterns 
vary widely, the modes of thinking and perceiving in groups utilizing 
different linguistic systems will result in basically different world views 
(Fearing, 1954)"    (05)

found at http://www.newciv.org/ISSS_Primer/asem18wh.html    (06)

This is mostly free-stream reaction to the questions below, not an active 
response to anything specific. To go there is to start reaching for the 
platinum ring.    (07)

Jack    (08)

At 12:29 PM 6/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Part of the unfinished revolution is to use the extra
>degrees of freedom of computer-human interfacing to
>extend our basic 2-D recording techniques based on our
>long use of pen and paper.  My keyboard-mouse
>incorporates a pair of 2-D key arrangements derived
>from the typewriter and adding machine of a century
>plus a 2-D pointing mechanism.  With this I spend a
>of time reading images of ink-on-paper in .pdf format.
>Last week I was at a workshop on Finsler Geometry at
>which the lecturers either used oral-whiteboard mode
>or oral-transparency mode, while spending a fair
>of time gesturing and drawing in the air with their
>hands to convey the geometrical meaning of what they
>were saying. The hand motions won't be in the printed
>reports of the meetings.
>Can anyone give me references to good analyses of how
>to create a well integrated system of communication
>1) Is fast and flexible, using the many degrees of
>    freedom of the hands and limbs (and voice),
>2) Incorporates versions of the dominant current modes
>    of recording as special cases to allow economic
>    transition to the new system,
>3) Has both reliable logographic and phonetic modes
>    of writing that can incorporate and extend our
>    contemporary mathematical and alphanumeric symbols,
>4) Allows tagging of points in a higher dimensional
>    geometrical space of navigation with writing to
>    create a mathematically effective virtual reality,
>5) Is physically arranged to allow effective team
>    communication and mobility within complex
>    intelligent-machine rich environments, and
>6) Has good consensus-building social features?
>I see that this is possible in the near future,
>because computing technology is reaching the point
>where the necessary interfacing calculations can be
>done in real time.  The more difficult part is
>creating a credible business and organizational
>model to deal with the costs of switching to the new
>system. Part of such a model needs to be an
>explanation of how the new system is an effective tool
>for allowing people to understand more advanced
>mathematics than is in the customary curriculum, and
>thus is a good tool for developing the bio-, nano-,
>and materials technology of the coming century.
>Another part of the social problem is to overcome the
>mythology that the next dominant computer-human
>interface will be "invisible" and "easy" to learn.
>Cultures embellish their empowering technologies with
>games, disciplines and art, so that people are guided
>to learning how to use the power inherent in the
>technologies.  The next computer-human interface will
>be no exception.  It will lead to more collaborative
>work and to more specialization. Since it will enhance
>both desirable features and undesirable aspects of our
>technology culture, a realistic anthropological view
>is needed in analyses.
>Since I already understand most of the basic
>mathematics, science, and engineering of the problem,
>I am particularly looking for concepts of how best to
>merge current informational techniques and efforts
>into the new system.
>larens imanyuel    (09)