Re: [unrev-II] Semantic Community Web Portal (Formality Harmful)
From: Simon Buckingham Shum (email@example.com)
Date: Mon Sep 17 2001 - 08:50:04 PDT
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Re: [unrev-II] Semantic Community Web Portal
At 12:36 AM -0700 9/17/01, Eugene Eric Kim wrote:
A few words on the methodology I've
been experimenting with. It's very
1. People discuss things in an unstructured fashion -- e-mail,
web forums, whatever.
2. One or more moderators build a dialog map of the discussion,
granular links to the original discourse.
3. Partipants frequently check the dialog map, and have the option
commenting on it in their unstructured forums or even in
the dialog map
this looks extremely interesting work
the key feature is that your IBIS/graphical representation is
post hoc. You are investing intellectual effort after the event to
edit and distill. Naturally, this is valuable in itself, and from what
you claim, even more so in visual form.
I guess a key challenge is whether visual discourse works when
'normal' people do it, or whether it sinks under the weight of
individual variations in node classification styles, node granularity,
node naming and cross links. If only specialists can do it, it won't
scale to the masses, but be more of an advanced tool for knowledge
This is precisely the challenge that we have set ourselves in the
ScholOnto (Scholarly Ontologies) project, in an early state of dev.
As Eric noted, I've been using
QuestMap primarily. I've also experimented
extensively with Nexist, and I wrote some conversion tools in Perl,
allowed me to tinker with an underlying data model for IBIS.
posted some design notes several months ago, which I found very
Based on my experiences with IBIS, the existing tools, and my
experiments, I've started to put together a design for a
tool to support this structured/unstructured form of dialog. My
step will be to build a set of Java classes that implements an
IBIS data model. I plan on using these classes to build my own
mapping tool, but I hope that others will find it useful as well.
instance, I have some thoughts on how to integrate Alex's TouchGraph
these classes, but he will probably have a clearer idea on how this
be done, and he'd be free to use my library to demonstrate this.
people who play with the classes, the
better the APIs will become.
A Java descendant and augmentation of QuestMap exists, closely
mimicking its interface and designed to handle its exports, codenamed
Mifflin (as described in some of the Compendium papers*. This is
currently owned by Verizon, but open source release is being
considered. If you are interested in it please mail me with subject
line Mifflin, and I'll keep you posted if it's released. An indication
of the demand for it could help a decision!
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