[ba-ohs-talk] Dave Snowden's Work and KM Research
Ed, (01)
Answering your letter, shown below, asking for background on
distribution of prior correspondence... (02)
Gary Johnson works with Boeing on the ISS project. He has expressed
interest in KM as a contributor to the OHS/DKR group, and has good
ideas on improving management. An example of Gary's work on KM is in
the record on 011006... (03)
http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/01/10/06/112225.HTM (04)
OHS/DKR is an ad hoc group of what seems to be computer programmers
who have been discussing how to develop KM technology generally under
the guidance of Doug Engelbart, who issued an OHS Launch Plan on
001025... (05)
http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/00/10/25/095632.HTM#G3W8 (06)
SRI provided some initial support for this effort, but has receded in
the past year. (07)
Progress has been slow because KM is a difficult subject, as seen from
the results of meetings, listed in the record on 001017... (08)
http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/00/10/17/160043.HTM#1575 (09)
I suspect it would help for contributors to take some of the courses
shown on your website. Although again, it appears that KM is pretty
much a secret of SDS, based on the widespread difficulty people have
in this area, as seen from your letter the other day, and your
comments on 000113... (010)
http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/00/01/13/115201.HTM#3098 (011)
...for reasons explained in POIMS.... (012)
http://www.welchco.com/03/00050/01/09/01/02/00030.HTM#1850 (013)
...which reflects the challenge of integrating traditional management
science with cognitive and computer science, per Drucker's article
reviewed on 991025.... (014)
http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/99/10/25/211024.HTM#0785 (015)
Rod (016)
************** (017)
Edward Swanstrom wrote:
>
> Who is Garold Johnson, and OHS/DKR???
>
> Edward Swanstrom
> CEO
> Innovation Management Institute International (IMII)
> Secretary-General
> Global Knowledge Economics Council (GKEC)
> edward-swanstrom@gkec.org
> http://www.eknowledgecenter.com
> +1 520-731-3130
>
> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
> which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged
> material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or
> taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or
> entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you
> received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the
> material from any computer.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rod Welch [mailto:rowelch@attglobal.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:54 PM
> To: Edward Swanstrom
> Cc: 'Maloney, John'; 'Harrow, Stuart'; Johnson, Garold (Gary) L.;
> OHS/DKR, SRI; Snowden, Dave
> Subject: Dave Snowden's Work and KM Research
>
> Ed,
>
> Thanks for feedback correcting the record on 020812. I made the change
> you requested. The error occurred, because your letter came out of the
> blue after two (2) years, so I just didn't think to update the contact
> record, since there is not a lot of activity on your account. Didn't
> intend to cause any harm, just an oversight.
>
> Answering your question about the basis for who gets a copy...
>
> I sent a copy to John Maloney because he is mentioned in the record in
> connection with Dave Snowden's work, which you discuss in your letter.
> A copy was sent to Stuart Harrow because, as you can see from the
> reference to Stuart in the record on 020612, Stuart has mentioned
> several times the advantage of a good website, and I thought the
> websites referenced in your letter were of the caliber he would
> appreciate. Sending him a copy gives him a chance to provide feedback
> saying, "Yes that is what I have been talking about;" or "No, I think
> thus and so." A copy went to Dave because the record on 020812 comments
> on his work. Typically, the record is distributed to give affected
> parties the opportunity to provide timely feedback that helps refine
> accuracy of understandings in order to avoid causing harm, as you did in
> your letter this evening.
>
> Your right about the challenge of a connected record giving the
> appearance of spending all day behind the computer that is too costly
> using technology and methods generally available. It discourages using
> good practices, even when mandated by contracts and regulations, as
> shown on 020504....
>
> http://www.welchco.com/sd/08/00101/02/02/05/04/095827.HTM#IY4I
>
> The history at this location beginning at line 421184 will be of
> particular interest in formulating the important standards you are
> putting together for KM.
>
> In keeping with your confidentiality notice I am sending copies to
> people you have copied for the purpose of ensuring a complete record.
> Also, sending a copy to Gary Johnson, who has been working on the
> problem you cite about the record being too burdensome for widespread
> use in daily work, and also, copying the OHS/DKR people because they are
> working the same issue. This letter will help solve the problem you
> bring up.
>
> Again, sorry about the mix-up on your address. As you note, I
> appreciate there isn't enough time to respond, but thanks for commenting
> about SDS after so many years, and congratulations on your new
> assignment.
>
> Rod
>
> *************
>
> Edward Swanstrom wrote:
> >
> > Why did you use my old title and address to send me a letter?
> > Especially after I gave you correct information? It seems your system
> > is not working very well to update old information with new
> > information. Why did you copy others on this? Does you method capture
> > your emotive reasons for this action?
> >
> > Reminds me of a man I read about who spent all day keeping a diary
> > about everything that he did and ending with hundreds of volumes of
> > works while missing out on life.
> >
> > This will be my last communication. It is too costly to interact with
> > you.
> >
> > Edward Swanstrom
> >
> > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity
> > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or
> > privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or
> > other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this
> > information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient
> > is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the
> > sender and delete the material from any computer.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rod Welch [mailto:rowelch@attglobal.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:16 PM
> > To: Edward Swanstrom
> > Cc: Maloney, John; Snowden, Dave; Harrow, Stuart
> > Subject: Dave Snowden's Work and KM Research
> >
> > Ed,
> >
> > Please see my letter at...
> >
> > http://www.welchco.com/03/00050/61/02/08/1201.HTM#0001
> >
> > ...responding to your letter below.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Rod
> >
> > ***************
> >
> > Edward Swanstrom wrote:
> > >
> > > BTW - David Snowden does not represent the latest trend in KM. At
> > > the next conference we will uncover his "Voodoo scientific approach"
>
> > > to it. He is an embarrassment to the science-base side of KM.
> > >
> > > --------------
> > >
> > > I ran across your continuous comments. I have not rejoined KMCI.
> > >
> > > It also seems that you spend much time capturing people's comments
> > > but
> >
> > > not really keeping up with the latest trends.
> > >
> > > Knowledge Economics is based on the work of Fritz Machlup in the
> > > late 50s to 80s. Over 100,000 articles have been written on this
> > > subject. We started making a practical profession out of it in 2001
> > > by forming the Global Knowledge Economics Council.
> > >
> > > Check out http://gkec.org and http://www.kmstandards.org and
> > > http://www.eknowledgecenter.com for updates on this fast growing
> > > area.
> > >
> > > Have fun!
> > >
> > > Edward Swanstrom
> > > CEO
> > > Innovation Management Institute International (IMII)
> > > Secretary-General
> >
> > > Global Knowledge Economics Council (GKEC) es@gkec.org
> > > http://www.eknowledgecenter.com
> > > +1 520-731-3130 (018)