oops, RE: Another such tool: Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Mind mapping tool
I should learn to read my inbox from the bottom! I see that Al has already
shed enough light on this possibility. (01)
As far as I remember, there has been talk of Mifflin, the Java engine used
by Compendium, going open source. Maybe Al could shed some light on the
status of that effort. (02)
Jack
At 04:36 AM 10/29/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>The web site tells you everything except how much it costs and how to get
>it. Any time I see this sort of thing, I assume that it is going to cost a
>*lot* more than I am willing to pay. Plus, it annoys me not to be able to
>get some idea of price.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Garold (Gary) L. Johnson
>
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>albert.m.selvin@verizon.com
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>To: ba-ohs-talk@bootstrap.org
>Subject: RE: Another such tool: Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Mind mapping tool
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>
>In addition to the tools Danny mentions, Compendium
>(www.compendiuminstitute.org) has all the desired characteristics -- XML,
>RDF, and Jabber-friendly, represents nodes in multiple views (in fact it
>takes that quite far), etc.
>
>Al
>
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>"Danny Ayers" <danny666@virgilio.it>@bootstrap.org on 10/29/2002 05:14:05
>AM
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>Please respond to ba-ohs-talk@bootstrap.org
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>Subject: RE: Another such tool: Re: [ba-ohs-talk] Mind mapping tool
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> >Thanks. I read about something called "Grokker" last
> >night, too. Any word on that?
> >
> >Alex Shapiro wrote:
> >
> >> Here is some more info about Groxis
> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/27/technology/27SOFT.html
> >> http://slashdot.org/articles/02/10/27/192225.shtml?tid=95
> >>
> >> So far I haven't found any info to impress me. It seems that all they
>do
> >> it take cluster suggestions such as those returned by www.vivismo.com
>and
> >> form a hierarchical map out of them. The problem with hierarchical
>views
> >> is that they don't give you a sense of how an item could fall
> >into multiple
> >> categories. This same data could have been rendered using Inxight's
>star
> >> tree.
>
>Or for that matter with TouchGraph (as Alex modestly neglects to mention)
>:
>http://www.touchgraph.com/
>
>I agree with Alex's point about the limitations of hierachical views, and
>it's a common drawback to virtually all the 'mindmapper' type tools,
>whatever their subject matter. For such tools to become *really* useful, in
>my opinion they will need to have at least two fundamental characteristics
>:
>a (node & arc) graph based model; a globally interoperable data format.
>There appear to be two major alternatives available for the model/format -
>XML Topic Maps (XTM) and Resource Description Framework (RDF). (I'm
>currently working on a tool of this type primarily using the latter).
>
>I'm sure that this has already been noted, but just for the record there's
>also the CMapTools tool :
>http://cmap.coginst.uwf.edu/
>which is already in very widespread use in schools etc, and from what I
>gather has until recently been using a proprietary format for data
>interchange, but will in the near future use XTM.
>
>Cheers,
>Danny.
>
>
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>Danny Ayers
>
>Idea maps for the Semantic Web
>http://ideagraph.net
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><stuff> http://www.isacat.net </stuff>
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>Semantic Web Log :
>http://www.citnames.com/blog (03)
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