Re: [unrev-II] Session 8 - comments

From: malcolmdean@earthlink.net
Date: Fri Apr 14 2000 - 01:22:01 PDT

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    I am viewing the seminars via the web in April, 2000, from Los
    Angeles. Have your people call my people.

    --- In unrev-II@egroups.com, Henry van Eyken <vaneyken@s...> wrote:
    > Just a quick reply.
    >
    > I can't make out from this post whether the conversations referred
    to are
    > discussions during the sessions or conversations outside session 8
    proper.
    > All of the sessions have been recorded and Session 8, along with 7
    and 9,is
    > now being transcribed.
    >
    > Henry
    >
    > malcolmdean@earthlink.net wrote:
    >
    > > 1) Story - Rob Swigart
    > >
    > > Of course, Story is a big deal here in Hollywood, really a sub-
    > > industry. Everybody pays homage, then goes home and sins in
    > > primetime. But not all authorities agree on the three-act
    structure,
    > > as was stated. John Truby (www.truby.com) has a series of products
    > > analyzing very successful stories with 2, 4, n acts in various
    > > genres. Perhaps an area which could be investigated would be a
    set of
    > > genres matching the scenario work. Here again, Truby has the most
    > > interesting set of genres. Obviously, no business would own up to
    > > playing out a Murder Mystery, but maybe Romance has some value. If
    > > you're going to borrow, why not take it all?
    > >
    > > 2) Promoting these ideas
    > >
    > > It seems the seminar is looking for a fundamental set of products
    or
    > > developments, a complete toolkit, to create this revolution, just
    as
    > > the PC was born. I'm not sure this will be possible in the limited
    > > time available, or that it can play out the same way.
    > >
    > > Evolution is messy. While exploration and development proceeds in
    > > academia and business, efforts should also be made in the public
    and
    > > mass market arena. Even academics participate in the common
    > > experience during down times. Existing venues in the media should
    be
    > > exploited to prepare society. Identify, encourage and train
    naturally-
    > > occurring spokespersons. Products like Partnerware and groupwares
    are
    > > popping up all over the 'net. Use and encourage them, even if they
    > > only implemented half of an idea. A CoDIAK Webring can be
    established
    > > to link NICs and related efforts. An HTML newsletter can help
    > > maintain visibility. Potential profits can be stressed to create
    > > value. Is there an IPO in here somewhere? Perhaps memes could be
    > > created to spread the concepts. The whole idea needs to acquire
    sex
    > > appeal. In other words, we are not likely to be able to afford
    > > elegance, nor should a lack of elegance discourage any venue or
    > > method. He who dies with the most toys, wins.
    > >
    > > DKRs will require a fundamental cultural shift toward honoring
    > > information. Information must become like a religion, preserved
    and
    > > enshrined just like ancient texts. Right now, information control
    and
    > > obfuscation are much more important - politics and religious
    > > authority are the most blatant examples. And witness the low
    stature
    > > and pay of librarians and teachers.
    > >
    > > One classmate raised the question of conversations not being
    > > recorded, pointing out that they contain much of the knowledge
    which
    > > should be stuffed into the repository. Obviously, our culture is
    not
    > > going to start hiring millions of human recorders to take notes
    and
    > > maintain DKRs (even if this would be a good thing to do with the
    > > millions who will have nothing to do when robots are designing and
    > > building robots). But the immensely more powerful computers just
    > > around the corner will be able to. Dragon Systems is previewing
    audio
    > > search technology which comes from the "Intelligence community"
    (and
    > > which may, in fact, have played a role in Echelon, the American
    > > telecom spy system which has made many Europeans paranoid). As a
    > > pilot project, the NPR audio archive is being made available. When
    > > workers communicate with each other and the DKR just as Starfleet
    > > officers talk to their ships, DKRs will be practical and powerful.
    > > This possibility is not very far away.
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