Re: [unrev-II] Random thoughts on MS, OHS, and everything

From: Henry van Eyken (vaneyken@sympatico.ca)
Date: Wed Jun 06 2001 - 10:20:08 PDT

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    And here you may surmize how the MS corporate message filters into the general
    press:

    http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cfm?Story_ID=639730&CFID=394445&CFTOKEN=4575162

    (Also found in The Economist of June 3, p. 64, "Off with their beards.").

    Henry

    Jack Park wrote:

    > Consider this page: http://slashdot.org/features/01/05/29/2240253.shtml
    >
    > A quote:
    > "Bill Gates, exposed just a year ago as a ruthless and less-than-candid
    > corporate predator, is today the King of the Corporate Republic, the CEO of
    > Internet, Inc. He and his company are about to launch one of the most
    > ambitious campaigns in the history of business, one that should leave him
    > firmly in control of the digital universe. "
    >
    > Consider this transcluded post from Simon St.Laurant to XML-DEV:
    > "Clay Shirky has an article on Hailstorm up at:
    > http://www.openp2p.com/pub/a/p2p/2001/05/30/hailstorm.html
    > Shirky raises copyright and control as a central issue in Microsoft's
    > Hailstorm strategy:
    > >This is the most audacious aspect of HailStorm, and the core of the
    > >describe-and-defend strategy. Microsoft wants to create a schema which
    > >describes all possible user transactions, and then copyright that
    > >schema, in order to create and manage the ontology of life on the
    > >Internet. In HailStorm as it was described, all entities, methods, and
    > >transactions will be defined and mediated by Microsoft or
    > >Microsoft-licensed developers, with Microsoft acting as a kind of
    > >arbiter of descriptions of electronic reality:
    > We've had discussions of whether copyrighting a schema has any
    > implications for control. I can definitely see limitations on derived
    > works, which strikes me as unfortunate, but I'd really like to have a
    > clearer explanation from someone as to how intellectual property and XML
    > interact in the legal world..."
    >
    > Then, there's a very recent (latest?) Business Week article about how MS
    > came back much stronger.
    >
    > Starts, IMHO, to get rather interesting (what?). But, and sorry I cannot
    > pin down the URL (I think it was at cnn.com) an article that posits AOL
    > overtaking MS. Gads, what is a mother to do?
    >
    > And then, there's OHS. Would that it could be a breath of fresh air.
    >
    > Yesterday, Ted Nelson and Doug Engelbart sat in a conference room together
    > with several other individuals, all talking about common grounds between
    > Xanadu and OHS. I am sure that some report will be forthcoming that
    > details that event (I was so involved that I failed to take detailed
    > notes). I can report this, however. There were at least three areas of
    > commonality, and a strong interest in looking at the ZigZag structure--
    > http://www.xanadu.com/zigzag/tutorial/ZZwelcome.html
    > , perhaps even in concert with Lee Iverson's NODAL ideas, as a
    > superstructure for an OHS. In any case, fresh air, indeed!
    >
    > Cheers
    > Jack
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