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Re: [ba-unrev-talk] An approach to a simpler truth.

Just read what I said.  Can't decide which is worse, my pettiness or
my arrogance    (01)

Gerald Pierce wrote:
> Eric Armstrong wrote:
>>> If you are pampering yourself spending your money on a lot of 
>>> "things" there is a good chance that you don't really know who you 
>>> are! You speak like you DO know.  So tell me.
>> Ah. Past tense. It is only the recent realization of who I really am 
>> that it made it clear how much I was pampering myself. Before that, 
>> every option was equally valid. Now, some clearly align, while others
>> don't. (More on that in a future post.) 
>>> With regard to all the "if only's, that is a really tough fight.
>>> a more powerful approach would be to offer "charming deceptions" that 
>>> would provide forces and tools to assist people in waking up.
>> Sounds like a good description of something that would work.
>> Know of any somethings that fit the description?
> If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him.
> If I told you, I whould have to kill you.
> Here is an experiment you can try that may get you pointed in
> a fruitful direction direction.  The next time you are in really bad
> vibe traffic and you are feeling hateful and uncooperative, help where
> you can and by your actions promote harmony.  After you have done this
> for a bit, check out how you are feeling.  You could arrive at your
> destination in rush-hour traffic feeling refreshed, empowered and living
> a life less wasted.
>> I've long been intrigued by the notion of finding a rationalization
>> for doing good to others that *wasn't* based on religion. Such
>> a thing could go a long way to reduce religious prejudice, as well
>> as the worst of captialism. Equilibrium theory holds promise...
> I think that a system based on beliefs rather than observation is in
> trouble right from the start.  People learn to believe and accept on faith
> such things as "and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who
> trespass against us"  The actual words remain unexamined.  A good test
> is to ask yourself, what thoughts and actions aid my digestion?  For me
> it turns out that I won't allow myself to be forgiven UNTIL I forgive
> others.  There may or may not be GOD, but this truth remains and sheds
> light on what it is to be human.  I am open, however, to meeting someone
> for whom this is not true.
>  A non-religious "do unto others" would make a big dent...
> p.s. If you really want to know, sleep outside of the gates for a while.
>     (02)