[ba-unrev-talk] Final thought on Peter's review
Hi Peter,
In addition to my comments on your review in the preceeding message, I wanted to offer a simple approach for your needs as described below:
ADM does let you dump resources and so forth into a collector and you can then
> sort them out later but for me organisation of that material comes as a gradual
> accretion of links and notes in multiple structures that slowly come together. I
> have yet to ascertain whether ADM supports my personal approach.
======= To incrementally accumulate and organize material, you can:
A) Jjust drag and drop any collected topics or links into a branch/outline in the current datastructure;
B) label the top level topic for the branch in any way you like (even `unsorted' is OK)
C) You can then progressivly sort out these topics over time via simple drag and drop and subordiantion/superordination moves labelled in any way you like.
BTW, I'm confident of my progress-by-gradual-sortation suggestion here because I practice what I preach: I'm not just a software developer.but utilize ADM - every day - in various NON-Infotech venues such as NGO projects, authoring of complex documents, research projects, an employment agency of which I was CEO, etc. Working with ADM grreatly boosts both my ability to collect and organize data of all types, and my intellectual power to organize and synthesize this data.
Cordially, Eric
ADM Staff wrote:
Hi Eric,
I suspect that you may have misconstrued Peter's comment on the outliner below (he can speak for himself when he wakes up!). At least from our perspective at ADM, ease of reorganization of outline topics and appended materials is a key *strength* of the product.
Cordially, Eric Sommer, CEO, ADM
Eric Armstrong wrote:
Thanks for the review, Peter. I hope you're reading this after
getting some rest.
It sounds as though you can't reorganize the outline very
easily. Is that true? Because you're absolutely right that the
path to organization is accrete tidbits and create categories
for them as the commonalities become clear.
Peter Jones wrote:
> The Big Review --
>
> Good Stuff:
> If you like outlining, you might quite like this tool and where it's going.
> There are a few little niggles that I suspect will disappear in v2 and ADM seem
> to relish feedback so feel free to add to their to-do list.
> Fast download, fast install (on Windows at least) - just unzip and go, and
> there's much about the interface that is pretty intuitive, or at least fun to
> explore. Other things are harder to find and you will actually have to RTFM but
> the Help is context sensitive so you just push F1 and up it comes.
>
> Not-so-cool stuff:
> I have managed to make it hang once by switching across many applications to do
> various things and then coming back to it.
> The arrangement of the window panes nags - I would like to be able to move them
> around like in a visual IDE - layering or drag and dock as necessary. More
> options on that front would be good.
> Links are attached to admtopics (outline topics) but when embedded in a topic's
> textcard they don't appear active. So you don't appear to be able to insert
> links at certain points in the text (unless it's hidden in the manual somewhere
> I haven't been yet). I can see that becoming problematic.
> You can't just paste links into a linkcard off the clipboard and have them
> recognised as links, you have to right-click for a context menu. This irritated
> me a little.
>
> Personal attitude stuff:
> I'm not really the sort of person who approaches the task of organisation in an
> outlining way from the outset. I.e. outlining is the thing I do last once I've
> gathered my materials, and then only do with a subset of those materials. ADM
> might support this method of working, but I haven't really tested it to that
> extent yet because I haven't done anything that needs outlining lately.
> ADM does let you dump resources and so forth into a collector and you can then
> sort them out later but for me organisation of that material comes as a gradual
> accretion of links and notes in multiple structures that slowly come together. I
> have yet to ascertain whether ADM supports my personal approach.
>
> 7/10 for the app at this stage, but ADM Staff seem to be working hard on raising
> that. 8+/10 for effort.
>
> It's late. Time for bed.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Peter
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Armstrong"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Peter's ADM features wishlistWas: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] From ADM:
> Another thought on your inquiry
>
> > Peter:
> >
> > I'm looking forward to your review of this.
> >
> >
> >
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