Re: [ba-unrev-talk] Re: Peter's Big Review of ADM WWO Client -- WAS:Re: Peter's ADM features wishlistWas: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] From ADM: Another thought on your inquiry
Hi, (01)
> It sounds as though you can't reorganize the outline very
> easily. Is that true?
No, that's not true - ADM is very powerful in that respect.
Let me state that another way in case Eric Sommer's messages aren't hitting the
nail.
ADM does outline stuff very well. (02)
I was making a point about *my personal working style*. I would like to be able
to accrue information in a more contextual graph/network/topic map way and only
later - when I know that I'm heading towards some form of publication - start
moving subsets of that into outlines that have some linear priorities for
narrative reasons. It's a point I made very indirectly a long time ago on this
list when I published some ideas for an interface (no longer on my website). (03)
Cheers,
--
Peter (04)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Armstrong" <eric.armstrong@sun.com>
To: <ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org>
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 2:02 AM
Subject: [ba-unrev-talk] Re: Peter's Big Review of ADM WWO Client -- WAS:Re:
Peter's ADM features wishlistWas: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] From ADM: Another thought
on your inquiry (05)
> Thanks for the review, Peter. I hope you're reading this after
> getting some rest.
>
> It sounds as though you can't reorganize the outline very
> easily. Is that true? Because you're absolutely right that the
> path to organization is accrete tidbits and create categories
> for them as the commonalities become clear.
>
>
> Peter Jones wrote:
>
> > The Big Review --
> >
> > Good Stuff:
> > If you like outlining, you might quite like this tool and where it's going.
> > There are a few little niggles that I suspect will disappear in v2 and ADM
seem
> > to relish feedback so feel free to add to their to-do list.
> > Fast download, fast install (on Windows at least) - just unzip and go, and
> > there's much about the interface that is pretty intuitive, or at least fun
to
> > explore. Other things are harder to find and you will actually have to RTFM
but
> > the Help is context sensitive so you just push F1 and up it comes.
> >
> > Not-so-cool stuff:
> > I have managed to make it hang once by switching across many applications to
do
> > various things and then coming back to it.
> > The arrangement of the window panes nags - I would like to be able to move
them
> > around like in a visual IDE - layering or drag and dock as necessary. More
> > options on that front would be good.
> > Links are attached to admtopics (outline topics) but when embedded in a
topic's
> > textcard they don't appear active. So you don't appear to be able to insert
> > links at certain points in the text (unless it's hidden in the manual
somewhere
> > I haven't been yet). I can see that becoming problematic.
> > You can't just paste links into a linkcard off the clipboard and have them
> > recognised as links, you have to right-click for a context menu. This
irritated
> > me a little.
> >
> > Personal attitude stuff:
> > I'm not really the sort of person who approaches the task of organisation in
an
> > outlining way from the outset. I.e. outlining is the thing I do last once
I've
> > gathered my materials, and then only do with a subset of those materials.
ADM
> > might support this method of working, but I haven't really tested it to that
> > extent yet because I haven't done anything that needs outlining lately.
> > ADM does let you dump resources and so forth into a collector and you can
then
> > sort them out later but for me organisation of that material comes as a
gradual
> > accretion of links and notes in multiple structures that slowly come
together. I
> > have yet to ascertain whether ADM supports my personal approach.
> >
> > 7/10 for the app at this stage, but ADM Staff seem to be working hard on
raising
> > that. 8+/10 for effort.
> >
> > It's late. Time for bed.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > --
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eric Armstrong" <eric.armstrong@sun.com>
> > To: <ba-unrev-talk@bootstrap.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Peter's ADM features wishlistWas: Re: [ba-unrev-talk] From ADM:
> > Another thought on your inquiry
> >
> > > Peter:
> > >
> > > I'm looking forward to your review of this.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
> (06)