RE: [unrev-II] Nailing Jello To The Wall

From: Gil Regev (
Date: Tue Oct 23 2001 - 08:29:23 PDT

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    Thanks for this great post Jack. I browsed through it and I like the
    approach of attempting to reconcile technology and appreciation. I also need
    to re-read Pirsig's book...

    Actually, King's objectives are very similar to the Socio-Technical
    approach. A 50 year old approach to organizational change which advocates
    the simultaneous and continuous optimization of the social and technical
    sides of an organization. Check out the book called The New Socio-Tech:

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Jack Park []
      Sent: dimanche, 21. octobre 2001 18:20
      Subject: [unrev-II] Nailing Jello To The Wall

      From the top of the page:

      "You look pretty much
      the same as I
      and our alphabet begins
      with an "A" and even our
      show the same
      when scrawled on a
      But I don't understand how you
      the world from behind
      the screen when I look in from the
      And I wonder
      is there room for me back there
      or for you out here
      or maybe we can just
      around the boundaries and
      -- sjking, '97

      The page is about communication: programmers and users.

      "This research grew out of my proposal that an in-depth study of the
      relational differences and similarities of people in the roles of
      programmer and user would show that this often-perceived gap is less
      dichotomous than either side of the communication struggle may assume. I
      found, however, evidence that continues to suggest that there is indeed a
      strong difference between the ways of thinking, so the bulk of my analysis
      continued with this finding in mind. Robert Pirsig (Zen and the Art of
      Motorcycle Maintenance, 1974) draws distinctions between classical versus
      romantic ways of understanding, then bridges this gap with "quality" -- an
      identifiable, yet elusive concept and reality. This Action Research
      Practicum draws heavily upon both my own and Pirsig's philosophies of
      technology and quality and how differing world views color the
      understanding between different groups."

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